New documents show contacts between Pompeo and Trump’s lawyer Giuliani

November 23, 2019

Documents released late on Friday show United States President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani was in contact with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo in the months before the US ambassador to Ukraine was abruptly recalled.

The State Department released the documents to the group American Oversight in response to a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit. They show that Pompeo talked with Giuliani on March 26 and March 29.

In this photo taken on October 21, 2019, US President Donald Trump (L) listens to US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo during a Cabinet Meeting at the White House in Washington, DC. — AFP
In this photo taken on October 21, 2019, US President Donald Trump (L) listens to US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo during a Cabinet Meeting at the White House in Washington, DC. — AFP

Austin Evers, executive director of American Oversight, said the documents reveal a clear paper trail from Giuliani to the Oval Office to Secretary Pompeo to facilitate Giuliani’s smear campaign against a US ambassador.

Last week, former Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch told House impeachment investigators she felt kneecapped by a smear campaign Giuliani led against her. She was withdrawn from her post in Ukraine in May.

The documents released on Friday also include a report, that appears with Trump hotel stationery, that appears to summarise a January 23, 2019, interview with Ukraine’s former prosecutor-general, Victor Shokin. The summary says Giuliani and two business associates, Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, were present.

Parnas and Fruman were arrested last month on a four-count indictment that includes charges of conspiracy, making false statements to the Federal Election Commission and falsification of records. The men had key roles in Giuliani’s efforts to launch a Ukrainian corruption investigation against Democratic presidential contender Joe Biden and his son Hunter.

In the document, Shokin claims he was removed from his position under pressure from Biden.

A second memo appears to be a summary of an interview with Yuri Lutsenko, also a former prosecutor general of Ukraine, conducted in the presence of Giuliani, Parnas and Fruman. Lutsenko is quoted raising questions about compensation that Hunter Biden received from the Ukrainian oil company Burisma.

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